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Webster: Theo they will be having fun, they have some new weapons

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Theo: BUT, he is joining us to the Quarry on sunday

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Time to leave for work, catch you boys now now

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Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #1

swarley81
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Hi fellow bassers,

Meet my new Crackleback Lite 360. Thanks to Neil and his team from Escape Boating in Benoni for a job very well done!!!

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The guy in the background is my dad. He's helping me to customise a trailer so that it is perfect for the CBL. I have not taken her out on the water yet and as you can imagine I can't wait to do it. Hopefully she'll be ready for Nigel on 10 March.

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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #2

Theo OFFLINE Piggie Predator Here Fishy Fishy !!! Posts: 1073 Thank you received: 132	Very Nice Swarley! I am sure that she will bring you loads of joy!
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #3

madporra OFFLINE Organiser I would rather be Bassin' Posts: 3999 Thank you received: 389	Congrats Wouter, awesome man!! That boat looks nice and big man. what you going to fish from on Saturday?
	Paul "madporra"Pereira. PB 2.5kg LM bass @ Germiston Lake. Fishing partner David "The Fish Eagle" Moore. Fish off a Starboats fibreglass dinghy with 54lb Jarvis Walker trolling motor. Humminbird 570DI finder. Reels: Curado Rods: Crucials and Deep South rods... The administrator has disabled public write access. The following user(s) said Thank You: swarley81

Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #4

swarley81 OFFLINE Broodstock Posts: 614 Thank you received: 90	madporra wrote: Congrats Wouter, awesome man!! That boat looks nice and big man. what you going to fish from on Saturday? I'm missing KK Paul I enrolled for a course and I have to go to class on 2 Saturdays per month I'll only see you guys again at Nigel.
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #5

madporra OFFLINE Organiser I would rather be Bassin' Posts: 3999 Thank you received: 389	Eish bummer dude!
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #6

Chris OFFLINE Broodstock A bad days fishing is better than a good days work Posts: 524 Thank you received: 29	Awsome boat man many happy reel runs off her
	Signature Chris "Toffer" de Kooker. Personal Best Largemouth Bass - 2.1kg. Uses Shimano Citica Reels and Team Daiwa light and tough and S Rods. Fishes from a 2.8m jcraft Rubberduck with a jarwis walker 34lb trolling motor The administrator has disabled public write access. The following user(s) said Thank You: swarley81

Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #7

Wilmy OFFLINE Administrator So many fish, so little time Posts: 3256 Thank you received: 285	Very nice Wouter. What's better a Crackleback or tug? I'll be buying one or the other soon just need to know what's best.
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #8

Abdul OFFLINE Broodstock So little time so much bass to catch Posts: 713 Thank you received: 85	Nice what's the price tag on a Cbl
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #9

Bassaholic OFFLINE Moderator Team BWG Xcite Baits Posts: 1261 Thank you received: 201	Congrats dude, awesome boat It looks super stable
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #10

Webster OFFLINE Organiser If you can't say something nice, rather go fish Posts: 2517 Thank you received: 359	Nice one bud! This looks much deeper, might be better than a Tug10
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #11

BASSCRAZY OFFLINE Dink Stalker Posts: 231 Thank you received: 35	Theo wrote: Very Nice Swarley! I am sure that she will bring you loads of joy! X10!!!!!
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #12

Richard OFFLINE Lunker Tracker Give me water...I wanna fish Posts: 1379 Thank you received: 136	great looking boat> so are you going to be putting some decking in? care to share your layout?
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #13

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Thanks guys.

@ Wilmy: We had a look at a new Tug20 on Saturday after I bought my boat. I always thought they are 4.2m, but then we measured it and it was only 3.8m. I also think the Crackleback sits a little deeper in the water due to higher sides. The Tug 20 measured 1.6m wide, where the Crackleback measured in at 1.55m. Overall I don't think there's much between these two boats, except for the Crackleback having higher sides. I think that might be an advantage when you have a slightly heavier load and rougher water. I opted for the 2 seat option as they are both foam filled, so buoyancy should not be a problem. Also, with my plans to deck her the seats are going to give me the stability in the deck that I need so I don't have to put any holes into the hull.

@Abdul: These are the prices that I received from Escape Boating when I started doing my research.

Crackleback Lite 300

Length: 3.0m
Beam: 1.55m

Hull with one seat R5960.00
Second seat R630.00
1.4m carpeted flat deck R1210.00
1.4m carpeted flat deck with 2 hatches R2300.00
Tarpaulin boat cover R1030.00

Crackleback Lite 360

Length: 3.6m
Beam: 1.55m

Hull with one seat: R6620.00
Second seat R630.00
1.6m carpeted flat deck R1360.00
1.6m carpeted flat deck with 2 hatches R2430.00
Tarpaulin boat cover R1130.00

Trailer R8100.00
Spare wheel R690.00

You can chat to Neil and he can customize your boat like you want it, even the colour.

@Richard: Yes, the plan is to deck her. I don't have sketches of the layout (just A LOT of pics that I downloaded from the www from guys in the US who decked their Jon Boats). I'll post pics as I go along. I will probably use 50x50 aluminium angle iron, 9mm marine plywood, 5mm Sondor SVA 45 foam and carpet.

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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #14

Abdul OFFLINE Broodstock So little time so much bass to catch Posts: 713 Thank you received: 85	Thanks swarley those prices not bad
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #15

Richard OFFLINE Lunker Tracker Give me water...I wanna fish Posts: 1379 Thank you received: 136	Well good luck with yuor project hope it turns out how you want it too
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #16

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VERY NICE!!!!
Congratulations Wouter!!! Its looking really good!!!

Im still saving up for my boats decking etc. so a no go for me now at the moment.

Just a quick question... The angle iron and the marine ply, dont you think this is going to make the boat very heavy??
I was thinking of taking my boat to a boat place and ask them to make a deck with hatches for me with fibre glass? Do you think this is going to be very expensive? I know it will be a lot lighter than the marine ply and i know that marine ply is also not cheap... Everyones feedback will be appreciated!!

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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #17

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Hi Hugo,

I'm planning on using 9mm marine plywood. The weight of one sheet is about 18.75kg. Cost per sheet is about R400. I'll have to use about one and a half sheets for the area that I'm planning to deck, so the total weight of the wood will be +- 27 kg's. (which is slightly less than a deep cycle battery). I'm also opting for aluminium angle iron that is a lot lighter than normal angle iron. The weight of 3metre 50mm x 50mm x 3mm aluminium angle iron is about 2.36kg. I'm not sure how much I'll have to use yet.

Where can I find out about fibreglass decking and its weight?

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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #18

madporra OFFLINE Organiser I would rather be Bassin' Posts: 3999 Thank you received: 389	Call Frans @ Ventrade 011-845-4445. Tell him you're a bass angler, he'll point you in the right direction.
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #19

Abdul OFFLINE Broodstock So little time so much bass to catch Posts: 713 Thank you received: 85	the more im looking at swaleys cbl the more i love it tempted to get me one
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #20

Chris OFFLINE Broodstock A bad days fishing is better than a good days work Posts: 524 Thank you received: 29	me too Abdul me too but i wnat the full kitted out version frount deck and live well and hatch foot control
	Signature Chris "Toffer" de Kooker. Personal Best Largemouth Bass - 2.1kg. Uses Shimano Citica Reels and Team Daiwa light and tough and S Rods. Fishes from a 2.8m jcraft Rubberduck with a jarwis walker 34lb trolling motor The administrator has disabled public write access.

Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #21

Wilmy OFFLINE Administrator So many fish, so little time Posts: 3256 Thank you received: 285	swarley81 wrote: Crackleback Lite 360 Length: 3.6m Beam: 1.55m Hull with one seat: R6620.00 Second seat R630.00 1.6m carpeted flat deck with 2 hatches R2430.00 Tarpaulin boat cover R1130.00 Trailer R8100.00 Spare wheel R690.00 R19,600 That'll be my new ride Wilmy's saving up!!!
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #22

bassbug OFFLINE Lunker Tracker Posts: 1315 Thank you received: 125	im stupid to decking a boat , but common sense rekons " dont buy any seats at all" you could save 2x630 = R1260. because in decking the boat you probaly would need that space for hatches such as rod hatch (7ft rods) just my 2 rands worth...
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #23

Abdul OFFLINE Broodstock So little time so much bass to catch Posts: 713 Thank you received: 85	bassbug wrote: im stupid to decking a boat , but common sense rekons " dont buy any seats at all" you could save 2x630 = R1260. because in decking the boat you probaly would need that space for hatches such as rod hatch (7ft rods) just my 2 rands worth... I think the seats here add support for the deck if u opt o deck it
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #24

bassbug OFFLINE Lunker Tracker Posts: 1315 Thank you received: 125	Wouldn't the walls of hatches add support to the deck?
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #25

Richard OFFLINE Lunker Tracker Give me water...I wanna fish Posts: 1379 Thank you received: 136	i would have thought so, after all how are other decks put on a boat?? i wud say if is comes with thye seat use it but if your ordering a new boat and have the option i like BBs idea of rod hatches and think the seats will limit this option
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #26

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Just some technical info

9mm plywood weighs about 19kg and is 3m2 and weighs about 6.5kg /m2 R400
350gsm + 1 kg resin = 1.35kg /m2 x 10 layers for strength = 13.5 kg /m2 R320 gsm + R440 resin

10 layers of resin will be rigid, but it still needs reinforcing strips included as used on hatches. Weight will still be added to the plywood to seal it, with resin and glass.

Use 6mm for the vertical sides of the boxes with a single layer of grp for strength and waterproofing

If plywood or thin wood is sandwiched between two layers of grp and resin the structural strength is improved x4.

If you are not going to cover all the plywood in GRP, paint it with QD enamel paint (Quick Dry - about 1 hour)

DO NOT COVER ANY PLYWOOD WITH JUST A LAYER OF RESIN WITHOUT ANY CLOTH.
The wood "breathes and moves" and the whole surface will have very fine cracks

Good luck with the decking. Maybe we should all get together, hire a large workshed, get all the boats and start fixing the boats together. Just don't forget the braai and refreshments...

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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #27

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swarley81 wrote:

Thanks Wouter
I will use the info given.
Not sure where you can find out about the fibreglass decking and its weight, you can maybe phone Mumro: zero82 689 8zerozerozero

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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #28

Basslover OFFLINE Organiser Posts: 1925 Thank you received: 211	StephenK wrote: Good luck with the decking. Maybe we should all get together, hire a large workshed, get all the boats and start fixing the boats together. Just don't forget the braai and refreshments... Sounds like a brilliant IDEA!!!
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #29

fanbasstic OFFLINE Small Fry Seeker Posts: 21 Thank you received: 2	You would need some form of support, be it the seats or a carcass you build out of ply wood. I think to build a decent carcass would prop cost the same as the 2 seats fitted, I would still put some extra support in even with the seats. Just my 2cents.
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 1 year 3 months ago #30

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fanbasstic wrote:

You would need some form of support, be it the seats or a carcass you build out of ply wood.

I think to build a decent carcass would prop cost the same as the 2 seats fitted, I would still put some extra support in even with the seats. Just my 2cents.

That is the plan. Use the 2 seats as support and then build an aluminium carcass, attached to them. That's why I opted for the 2 seat option, to have a firm support base as well as buoyancy.

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