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Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #1

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Hi fellow bassers,

Meet my new Crackleback Lite 360. Thanks to Neil and his team from Escape Boating in Benoni for a job very well done!!! :laugh:

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The guy in the background is my dad. He's helping me to customise a trailer so that it is perfect for the CBL. I have not taken her out on the water yet and as you can imagine I can't wait to do it. Hopefully she'll be ready for Nigel on 10 March. B) :silly:
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #2

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Very Nice Swarley! B)
I am sure that she will bring you loads of joy!
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Congrats Wouter, awesome man!!
That boat looks nice and big man. what you going to fish from on Saturday?
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madporra wrote:
Congrats Wouter, awesome man!!
That boat looks nice and big man. what you going to fish from on Saturday?

I'm missing KK Paul :angry: I enrolled for a course and I have to go to class on 2 Saturdays per month :(

I'll only see you guys again at Nigel.
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Eish bummer dude! :(
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #6

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Awsome boat man many happy reel runs off her
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #7

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Very nice Wouter.

What's better a Crackleback or tug? I'll be buying one or the other soon just need to know what's best.
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Nice what's the price tag on a Cbl
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #9

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Congrats dude, awesome boat B) It looks super stable


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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #10

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Nice one bud! :)

This looks much deeper, might be better than a Tug10 :)
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Theo wrote:
Very Nice Swarley! B)
I am sure that she will bring you loads of joy!

X10!!!!!
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #12

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great looking boat>

so are you going to be putting some decking in?

care to share your layout?
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Re: Swarley's new Crackleback Lite 360 2 years 10 months ago #13

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Thanks guys.

@ Wilmy: We had a look at a new Tug20 on Saturday after I bought my boat. I always thought they are 4.2m, but then we measured it and it was only 3.8m. I also think the Crackleback sits a little deeper in the water due to higher sides. The Tug 20 measured 1.6m wide, where the Crackleback measured in at 1.55m. Overall I don't think there's much between these two boats, except for the Crackleback having higher sides. I think that might be an advantage when you have a slightly heavier load and rougher water. I opted for the 2 seat option as they are both foam filled, so buoyancy should not be a problem. Also, with my plans to deck her the seats are going to give me the stability in the deck that I need so I don't have to put any holes into the hull.

@Abdul: These are the prices that I received from Escape Boating when I started doing my research.

Crackleback Lite 300

Length: 3.0m
Beam: 1.55m

Hull with one seat R5960.00
Second seat R630.00
1.4m carpeted flat deck R1210.00
1.4m carpeted flat deck with 2 hatches R2300.00
Tarpaulin boat cover R1030.00

Crackleback Lite 360

Length: 3.6m
Beam: 1.55m

Hull with one seat: R6620.00
Second seat R630.00
1.6m carpeted flat deck R1360.00
1.6m carpeted flat deck with 2 hatches R2430.00
Tarpaulin boat cover R1130.00

Trailer R8100.00
Spare wheel R690.00

You can chat to Neil and he can customize your boat like you want it, even the colour.

@Richard: Yes, the plan is to deck her. I don't have sketches of the layout (just A LOT of pics that I downloaded from the www from guys in the US who decked their Jon Boats). I'll post pics as I go along. I will probably use 50x50 aluminium angle iron, 9mm marine plywood, 5mm Sondor SVA 45 foam and carpet.
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Thanks swarley those prices not bad
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Well good luck with yuor project

hope it turns out how you want it too
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VERY NICE!!!!
Congratulations Wouter!!! Its looking really good!!!

Im still saving up for my boats decking etc. so a no go for me now at the moment.

Just a quick question... The angle iron and the marine ply, dont you think this is going to make the boat very heavy??
I was thinking of taking my boat to a boat place and ask them to make a deck with hatches for me with fibre glass? Do you think this is going to be very expensive? I know it will be a lot lighter than the marine ply and i know that marine ply is also not cheap... Everyones feedback will be appreciated!!
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Hi Hugo,

I'm planning on using 9mm marine plywood. The weight of one sheet is about 18.75kg. Cost per sheet is about R400. I'll have to use about one and a half sheets for the area that I'm planning to deck, so the total weight of the wood will be +- 27 kg's. (which is slightly less than a deep cycle battery). I'm also opting for aluminium angle iron that is a lot lighter than normal angle iron. The weight of 3metre 50mm x 50mm x 3mm aluminium angle iron is about 2.36kg. I'm not sure how much I'll have to use yet.

Where can I find out about fibreglass decking and its weight?
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Call Frans @ Ventrade 011-845-4445.
Tell him you're a bass angler, he'll point you in the right direction.
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the more im looking at swaleys cbl the more i love it tempted to get me one
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me too Abdul me too but i wnat the full kitted out version frount deck and live well and hatch foot control :)
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swarley81 wrote:
Crackleback Lite 360

Length: 3.6m
Beam: 1.55m
Hull with one seat: R6620.00
Second seat R630.00
1.6m carpeted flat deck with 2 hatches R2430.00
Tarpaulin boat cover R1130.00
Trailer R8100.00
Spare wheel R690.00

R19,600

That'll be my new ride :) Wilmy's saving up!!!
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im stupid to decking a boat , but common sense rekons " dont buy any seats at all" you could save 2x630 = R1260. because in decking the boat you probaly would need that space for hatches such as rod hatch (7ft rods)
just my 2 rands worth...
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bassbug wrote:
im stupid to decking a boat , but common sense rekons " dont buy any seats at all" you could save 2x630 = R1260. because in decking the boat you probaly would need that space for hatches such as rod hatch (7ft rods)
just my 2 rands worth...

I think the seats here add support for the deck if u opt o deck it
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Wouldn't the walls of hatches add support to the deck?
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i would have thought so, after all how are other decks put on a boat??

i wud say if is comes with thye seat use it but if your ordering a new boat and have the option i like BBs idea of rod hatches and think the seats will limit this option
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Just some technical info

9mm plywood weighs about 19kg and is 3m2 and weighs about 6.5kg /m2 R400
350gsm + 1 kg resin = 1.35kg /m2 x 10 layers for strength = 13.5 kg /m2 R320 gsm + R440 resin

10 layers of resin will be rigid, but it still needs reinforcing strips included as used on hatches. Weight will still be added to the plywood to seal it, with resin and glass.

Use 6mm for the vertical sides of the boxes with a single layer of grp for strength and waterproofing

If plywood or thin wood is sandwiched between two layers of grp and resin the structural strength is improved x4.

If you are not going to cover all the plywood in GRP, paint it with QD enamel paint (Quick Dry - about 1 hour)

DO NOT COVER ANY PLYWOOD WITH JUST A LAYER OF RESIN WITHOUT ANY CLOTH.
The wood "breathes and moves" and the whole surface will have very fine cracks

Good luck with the decking. Maybe we should all get together, hire a large workshed, get all the boats and start fixing the boats together. Just don't forget the braai and refreshments...
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swarley81 wrote:
Hi Hugo,

I'm planning on using 9mm marine plywood. The weight of one sheet is about 18.75kg. Cost per sheet is about R400. I'll have to use about one and a half sheets for the area that I'm planning to deck, so the total weight of the wood will be +- 27 kg's. (which is slightly less than a deep cycle battery). I'm also opting for aluminium angle iron that is a lot lighter than normal angle iron. The weight of 3metre 50mm x 50mm x 3mm aluminium angle iron is about 2.36kg. I'm not sure how much I'll have to use yet.

Where can I find out about fibreglass decking and its weight?

Thanks Wouter
I will use the info given.
Not sure where you can find out about the fibreglass decking and its weight, you can maybe phone Mumro: zero82 689 8zerozerozero
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Good luck with the decking. Maybe we should all get together, hire a large workshed, get all the boats and start fixing the boats together. Just don't forget the braai and refreshments...

Sounds like a brilliant IDEA!!! :laugh: :woohoo:
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You would need some form of support, be it the seats or a carcass you build out of ply wood.

I think to build a decent carcass would prop cost the same as the 2 seats fitted, I would still put some extra support in even with the seats. Just my 2cents.
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fanbasstic wrote:
You would need some form of support, be it the seats or a carcass you build out of ply wood.

I think to build a decent carcass would prop cost the same as the 2 seats fitted, I would still put some extra support in even with the seats. Just my 2cents.

That is the plan. Use the 2 seats as support and then build an aluminium carcass, attached to them. That's why I opted for the 2 seat option, to have a firm support base as well as buoyancy.
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